iOS 14 upgrade

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  • Elizabeth Swoope

    Please use a browser to look on the portal, my.spartancamera.com, Camera Management. The photos should be there. Upgrading your device’s operating system has no effect on your cameras.

    There should be a new version of the app within the next 3-4 weeks that will download much faster but it’s still in testing and there are some quirks to work out.

    Try logging out of the app and back in. You can also try deleting and reinstalling the app.

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  • John Lockburner

    Chris the last person that upgraded and had issues just logged out and back in to the app and everything was fine.

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  • Chris Riley

    I tried the browser and only previous pics were there. I then tried logging out, and back in. The only pics that downloaded were the pics from yesterday that were still on the browser. I’m getting nothing from the older 8 cameras. Again, I was up until last night.

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  • John Lockburner

    Chris, something is going on with Verizon and 3g it appears, I'm assuming your older cameras are Verizon cams?

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  • Chris Riley

    Yes, they are all Verizon. I hope you are correct. I also tried deleting & reinstalling. No luck.

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  • Chris Riley

    The 3G cameras are supposed to be good until January 2021, correct?

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  • John Lockburner

    I think it's 100% shut down by that date, it could happen sooner

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  • Chris Riley

    Do you think that the Spartan service from 12-3am last night could’ve effected it?

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  • John Lockburner

    No, 4g cameras and ATT cameras seem to be working fine, it just seems like 3g Verizon are the problem. I'll bet if you check your camera probably stopped sending anything before the service started. The stuff that was done wasn't anything to do with performance on the server.

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  • Elizabeth Swoope

    The official final shutdown date for Verizon 3G is 12/31/2020. AT&T sunset is January-ish 2022.

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  • Chris Riley

    I just got off the phone with Verizon. They checked 3g in the area and it’s fine. They confirmed Elizabeth’s 12/31 conversion. They also checked the 3g cameras directly from 12am - present. He said it was “pinging all night’, which means it was trying to send pics. He also said the server that should accept them, was not accepting them.  He could tell by the small amount of data. My fear is that the work being done by Spartan, on the system last night, requires a firmware upgrade that my 3g cameras do not have. Thoughts?

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  • Elizabeth Swoope

    It's unlikely that a FW update would be developed and released this late in the game.

    The server update had nothing to do with the cameras, it was a security update. Also, the outages started hours before the update was done.

    Spartan is aware of it and I'm sure they're looking at it. Seems to affect more cameras on Verizon cell phone plans than those on Spartan plans.

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  • Chris Riley

    Ok. Thanks Elizabeth. I’m sure you understand how frustrating it is. Especially since I’m so far away. It’s crazy how reliant we’ve become on technology. Please let me know if you hear anything new.

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  • John Lockburner

    Chris, when was you last picture and last status report? Also where are you getting your data from, directly through Verizon or through Spartan?

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  • Elizabeth Swoope

    I understand. My cameras are only a couple of hours away, but I've known about this shutdown since June 2018 and have been aware that just because the date is 12/31/2020, that doesn't mean that that's the date where my cameras are so I've been treating them like they are on borrowed time for several months.

    The Verizon 3G cameras seem to be the only ones affected. We are almost exactly three months from the final sunset date. Maybe this is the start of the big decommissioning. Who knows?

    I'll be able to get to my cameras Saturday. I'm going to try a data reboot (fourth menu tab, Diagnostics, I think, but I'll find it) and I'm also going to try my two "down" cameras where the "up" camera is. There are two towers that my cameras use, neither of which is close, and I'm thinking that it's possible that one tower has been shut down and the other hasn't because the two down cameras are on either side of our equipment shed and the other camera is elsewhere on the property. The two cameras that are down are different models.

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  • Chris Riley

    Every 3G had the last photo & status report at 8am 9/28/20. That rules out anything from Spartan, like you said. My buddy, Richard McIntyre, has the same issues with his 3G. My data comes from Verizon.

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  • Elizabeth Swoope

    Chris,

    Thanks. One of mine quit at 3 AM, one at 7 AM. My camera that's working has a different FW from the ones that are down, but I'm told that the only difference in the two is the ability to save logs. Still doing some checking.

    We're still trying to see if there is any pattern and have some people trying a couple of things.

    liz

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  • Chris Riley

    Thanks Liz!

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  • Elizabeth Swoope

    Chris,

    I’m not very optimistic :(.

    liz

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  • Chris Riley

    Why do you say that? What have you uncovered? 🤔

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  • Elizabeth Swoope

    I haven't uncovered anything. One of our customers talked to a support person at Verizon and was told that CDMA service (AKA Verizon 3G) is no longer available. It appears that once the camera is shut down, it cannot be added back but we are trying a couple of things.

     

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  • Chris Riley

    That’s crazy that my Verizon guy, who I txt for all of my camera purchases / issues, said that we’d definitely get a stream of communication before they cut it off. I honestly don’t know how they could just cut it off with a lot of people still on 3g for their phones.

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  • Elizabeth Swoope

    One customer reported that his father-in-law received a text saying that his 3G phone was being shut off tomorrow. I haven't seen that text so I don't have firsthand knowledge of it.

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  • Chris Riley

    Verizon cash grab during “the ‘Vid”. AWESOME!!!! I’m sure you will get swamped with questions/txts/posts now. I appreciate all of your help. If I hear anything I’ll let you know. Please let me know if you do as well. 😊

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  • Elizabeth Swoope

    This was announced in June 2018 and the original sunset date was 12/31/2019? Are you saying that Verizon had advanced knowledge of the pandemic?

    Given that the original sunset date was 12/31/2019, anything after that has been gravy. I have put my Verizon 3G cameras in non-critical locations because I knew they were subject to die at any moment and probably without notice.

    Not sure why you'd say it's a Verizon cash grab.

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  • Chris Riley

    It was my understanding that they reported the extension to be until the end of this year. My comment about the cash grab was due to it happening prior to that date, and people having no choice but to upgrade immediately. Also, the Verizon rep that I spoke to today said that it would not happen without a ‘current’ array of emails that would give people plenty of notice for change. I apologize if I offended you.

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  • Elizabeth Swoope

    I wasn't offended. The extension until the end of the year is not "Everything is going to work until 12/31/2020 and then we'll cut the switch." It means, "Everything is going to be dead by 12/31/2020 but there will be sunsetting before that in some areas."

    Your Verizon rep could be wrong and not his fault. He has no control over what Verizon does and also no say in what they do or don't tell him. What he said about plenty of notice may be what he was told, what he reasonably expected (being a good rep who's looking out for his customers). It may be that customers using phones get the notification and customers using cameras don't. Customers using Spartan data plans wouldn't because Spartan wasn't notified and Verizon wouldn't have records of those customers.

    We're still trying to figure things out but it's not looking promising.

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  • Chris Riley

    Thanks again!! 😊

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